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Can Artificial Minds Think Creatively?

  • March 25, 2020
  • Dr. Marta Halina
  • 55 min

Welcome back! Our guest today is Marta Halina, a University Lecturer (Assistant Professor) in the Department of History and Philosophy of Science at the University of Cambridge.

Marta’s current focus is the philosophy of artificial intelligence. We discuss what philosophers can contribute to AI. We talk about AlphaGo and its stunning defeat of one of the world’s most celebrated Go champions. We puzzle over whether artificial minds can think creatively. (We also touch briefly on a project that Marta has been involved in called the Animal AI Olympics. Consider this part of our conversation a teaser—our next ‘mini’ episode is going to take a longer look at this initiative.)

Marta brings a distinctive perspective to all these issues. As you’ll hear, she’s worked on great ape minds as well as artificial minds, and she’s run scientific experiments in addition to her philosophical work.

As always, thanks for listening—we hope you enjoy the conversation.

Transcript

A transcript of this interview can be found here.

Notes & Links

8:45 – The key distinction between artificial general intelligence (AGI) and artificial narrow intelligence (ANI).

10:25 – AlphaGo’s victory against Go master Lee Sedol.

12:00 – More about Go.

15:57 – Lee Sedol announces his retirement.

17:00 – An article by Marta Halina and colleagues describing the Animal AI Olympics. (Stay tuned for our upcoming “mini” episode about this!)

23:05 – Demis Hassabis is the CEO and co-founder of DeepMind. You can listen to an interview with him here.

26:45 – On the idea that creative ideas are new, surprising, and valuable, see this collection of essays.

28:45 – A blogpost on DeepMind’s system AlphaFold, part of its effort to develop AIs that support scientific discovery.

30:32 – For Margaret Boden’s distinction between P-creativity and H-creativity, see this article (or this book).

35:45 – An article about Stephen Hawking’s 2016 presentation at the launch of the Leverhulme Center for the Future of Intelligence.

38:54 – A paper by Henry Shevlin and Marta Halina in which they argue that, in the context of AI, “rich psychological terms” ought to be used with care.

46:15 – The mission statement of the Society for the Philosophy of Science in Practice.

RECOMMENDATIONS

Dr. Halina’s end-of-show recommendations:

  • What is This Thing Called Science? (1976), by Alan Chalmers
  • The Meaning of Science (2016), by Tim Lewens
  • Kinds of Minds (2008), by Daniel Dennett
  • The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on Artificial Intelligence

The best ways to keep up with Dr. Halina’s research:

  • https://www.martahalina.com/
  • @MartaHalina

About Many Minds

Many Minds is a project of the Diverse Intelligences Summer Institute, which is made possible by a generous grant from the John Templeton Foundation to Indiana University. The show is hosted and produced by Kensy Cooperrider, with help from Assistant Producer Urte Laukaityte and with creative support from DISI Directors Erica Cartmill and Jacob Foster. Our artwork is by Ben Oldroyd.

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